tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6113092406021807714.post3954465930768347597..comments2023-05-30T07:32:30.943-04:00Comments on Gathering Evidence: What We Are Putting in Our Mouthsjakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16765242430017887568noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6113092406021807714.post-66192087734468397802007-06-21T20:33:00.000-04:002007-06-21T20:33:00.000-04:00Ben, thanks for pointing out my flawed sentence. I...Ben, thanks for pointing out my flawed sentence. I meant to write<BR/><BR/>"He [God] did this for a reason. Before there were shopping stores and organic food boutiques, humans still had to eat.<BR/><BR/>Please insert the word still before had.<BR/><BR/>Alice, <BR/> Yes, of course we should avoid eating meat if animals are unduly harmed in the process. I do think though that if we are to completely halt eating meat because of the fact that animals feel pain, I think maybe we also should look into whether plants feel pain as well. I am not a scientist but I know a lot of plants have sensory mechanisms (venus fly trap for example). Can it be possible that plants can also feel pain but our sense of human superiority unfairly precluded that possibility?<BR/><BR/>Food for thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6113092406021807714.post-17844225234429248092007-06-21T19:41:00.000-04:002007-06-21T19:41:00.000-04:00But my question wasn't "why do you eat meat?" My q...But my question wasn't "why do you eat meat?" My question was, "why do you look at me funny because I don't eat meat? Because I think we can generally agree that my arguments for not eating it are at least as valid as yours are for eating it."<BR/><BR/>Also, mcw, do you think that because we can get the nutrients for a healthy diet without meat now that we've progressed beyond hunter gatherer status that we should avoid eating meat if we know it was produced in an inhumane way?alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12639492593003031259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6113092406021807714.post-32610860625591324172007-06-21T17:00:00.000-04:002007-06-21T17:00:00.000-04:00I agree with a lot of what MCW said above. But I t...I agree with a lot of what MCW said above. But I thought that, man, someone has got to point out this sentence, which is pure gold:<BR/><BR/><I>"He [God] did this for a reason. Before there were shopping stores and organic food boutiques, humans had to eat.</I><BR/><BR/>... but now that there are such things, we don't need to eat anymore. Three cheers for the foodless life.<BR/><BR/>BenBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703827215039177341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6113092406021807714.post-88361887372858182852007-06-21T16:55:00.000-04:002007-06-21T16:55:00.000-04:00I'm also someone who, although a meat eater himsel...I'm also someone who, although a meat eater himself, cannot shut up about vegetarianism -- perhaps in the failed hope that talking about morality will actually make you me moral person, as by osmosis or absorbtion or whatever, without having to do the hard work of actually giving up something that I like to taste. <BR/><BR/>In any case, I think I know why meat eaters think you guys are crazy: it's the orthodoxy of the thing. Refraining from eating animals makes sense, as being eaten hurts. But. Sometimes it's just too damn hard, as when all your friends are going to a steakhouse; when you're in Thailand on an adventure trip and deserve to try the new cuisine; when you're floating in a sea of ribs and have to eat your way back to dry land.<BR/><BR/>You're already doing an immense amount of good by extricating meat from 99% of your diets. Special points if you talk to your friends about it, or push for political change in order to alleviate serious animal suffering. If you have to eat chicken in Thailand because it's just so damn cool and you've never had it like that before, I say, that's cool.<BR/><BR/>BenBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703827215039177341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6113092406021807714.post-82158918987914104442007-06-21T10:08:00.000-04:002007-06-21T10:08:00.000-04:00I will argue for meat-eaters. In Genesis Chapter 1...I will argue for meat-eaters. In Genesis Chapter 1 verse something, God said that he created animals and plants under our dominion. He did this for a reason. Before there were shopping stores and organic food boutiques, humans had to eat. What they did was hunt and gather plants. This provided early humans with a diet to sustain them. Meat is an integral source of protein and iron; all necessary for a balanced diet. If eaten in moderation and if animals are treated as humanely as possible in the process, I see nothing wrong with enjoying a nice, juicy steak every once in awhile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com